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Mark.Kennard's avatar

I think you may have things the wrong way round. Medical science is an attempt to describe reality, but it is not reality, just an attempt.

For thousands of years, human beings have been complaining of a seasonal illness that they only ever catch if they come into contact with someone who already had these symptoms. Preschools are a great example of contagious illness in action.

The reports have been that someone can go years and years without getting this illness and then one year they come into contact with someone who has these symptoms and they get those symptoms too

So it was the human race as a whole that set medical scientists the task of finding out the reality of the situation and what’s going on.

For scientists to come back and tell the human race that they were wrong and there’s no such thing as contagion is ridiculous. And the fact that they can’t even provide any evidence whatsoever to prove their assertion is pretty arrogant. So they can’t really expect to the believed now can they, when contagion has been witnessed by millions of people.

The argument that viruses don’t exist is an academic argument only. Sure, you can say that because some scientists failed at transmitting a virus from a sick person to a healthy person that they have not proven the existence of a contagious virus at all. Theyve been unable to prove they exist.

But that is why it’s an academic argument only. But that also doesn’t mean they won’t infect a healthy person with a virus from a sick person in future. They might.

That’s academics for you

In real life things are different. Just ask a preschool worker

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Roger Lewis's avatar

No one has proven that a virus actually exists or that a replicating particle can cause illness, or that pathogenic microorganisms like bacteria attack and infect us with an illness. There are no properly carried out scientific that prove these things. Not even one, and this is despite large sums of money being offered to any scientist that can prove these false hypotheses, and to date there has not been any takers. The only responses have been to try and silence any debate and even to criminalise that. Hardly a scientific response to try and bully any opposition by the vested interests. How large are the crimes that they are hiding? Most illnesses are environmental. Terrain Theory is the most likely explanation for illnesses.

My explanations don't do this topic justice. For a better understanding please follow the substacks of Dr Sam Bailey. She and her husband Dr Mark Bailey have done a lot of work in this area.

Allopathic medicine is designed to create false illnesses so that interested parties can make lots of money, and unfortunately through an extensive web of corruption these interested parties control the medical industry, and through long corrupt politiians the control medical regulation.

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Flying Gabriel's avatar

I still can't choose any of the three options until medical science has a fuller understanding of electromagnetics. Particularly the still extraordinarily mysterious and complex Human EM field or 'Torus.' Current understanding already links it to subliminal communication such as intuition, instinct, empathic psychosomatics, placebo energy, and even conscience. What seems held in common is some kind of quantum connection where communication takes place ... a plausible mechanism.

It's not the micro but the (until recently) invisible we tend to stifle room for at the table.

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Mark.Kennard's avatar

I’m going to be doing an article on the placebo affect soon too

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Mark.Kennard's avatar

That’s a big problem. Science ignores things it can’t measure. Emf of the human body can be measured but allopathic medical science ignores it. Scientist Valerie Hunt studied the emf of humans and even measured it

She scientifically validated mystic healers too.

There may very well be a 4th option, 5th or even 6th to explain contagion and flu symptoms. Currently out of the three, flu being a contagious trigger antigen and flu symptoms being a virus like allopathic science are the only ones which could be viable explanations for what I have experienced during my life

As allopathic medicine is an industry, they don’t have to prove contagion. Their industry has come up with an explanation for the public’s reports of a contagious illness but that doesn’t mean we have to believe them

I think the biggest issue is that we must ensure that allopathic medicine never become the world authority on healthcare as their role is not to investigate and cure disease. They only treat symptoms

If any medical industry whether existing yet or not, wants to become the authority on healthcare it must be a medical paradigm that does investigate the cause of disease and seek to cure it and not one that doesn’t.

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Flying Gabriel's avatar

This popped up via Ben Davidson (Suspicious 0bservers chan) today.

I immediately thought of this discussion, so sharing here fwiw.

Thank you friends.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0079610724000233

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Mark.Kennard's avatar

Thank for that. It’s very interesting

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Dianne Kewin's avatar

I question the contagion/terrain theories also and condider ( just by thinking about it) that both have some merit but do not explain everything. The idea of a trigger that sets illness off adds to the possibilities. I’ve recently been looking at work by Dr Jack Kruse (on YouTube) re circadian rhythms and the effects of light of all frequencies on our systems and that adds another nuance to the question of what makes us ill.

I read you ideas with interest.

Cheers.

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Flying Gabriel's avatar

Yes I agree. Especially your concluding comment. With that kind of focus the identification and interception of triggering mechanisms has little more relevance than addressing symptoms, the true universal cause being toxin exposure. Of course when the bona fide cause is identifiable beyond doubt, prevention enters the fray - the Pharmaceutical Industry's worst possible nightmare.

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Mark.Kennard's avatar

Spot on 👍

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Mark.Kennard's avatar

You may be interested in the book by Valerie hunt called infinite mind

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