All good, well said and yes each to their own.. and I agree it may seem over the top to focus on one aspect which may not be an issue to all people. Personally, I would rather eleminate the potential.. Lungs are sour and stimulated by sour foods.. onions are warming and sour. These facts applies to all people everywhere, it is not a cultural or ethnic variable. It is true also that there are are certian principals which will apply to everyone everywhere such as not consuming fruit and dairy together, animal fats and carbohydrates, combing two high protein ingredients (particular) etc. The body functions in particular ways regardless of circumstance. All good, we live and learn, thanks for the feedback.. on board. Be well 🖐😊
The body functions in many different ways between different people. Some react to some things while others don’t. We are not all the same and generic allopathic medicine has failed because of this. For ignoring people’s differences
I don’t see why not as tallow is just fat anyway. One thing though, I found that drinking warm fat made my stomach a bit upset. That’s why I put the fat into molds and ate it cold, melting it in my mouth with a mouthful of hot chocolate or tea before swallowing. Id only take a small nibble at a time.
We are made of animal fat, so when the fat in our diet isn’t enough to sustain our use of fat, it needs to be replaced in the diet. Fat from ruminants has been found to be the best at healing the metabolism and brain signalling. Many people have reversed their autoimmune symptoms on a diet of only beef and lamb fat.
"take a small nibble of your fat Lego brick, chew it up, then take a sip of a hot drink to mix with it and make it liquid. This way, you don’t notice the beef fat. You can eat one Lego brick in about 4 nibbles without even noticing it. Don’t try melting it and drinking it, as if my experience was anything to go by, it will make you feel sick." - so, just with one sip of a hot drink it doesn't make you feel sick, but melting it in a cup of hot water and drinking it, will? Sounds a bit strange.
Reading your article, I was thinking about using it in a soup - how would that work?
I have nothing against onions.. what I said is specifically don't combine them in a meal with beef.. you will poison your intestines.. re your eating organ meat fad.. we're you eating the filters? With our highly toxic modern farming protocols the liver and kidney meats will be highly toxic. This is perhaps why you had a reaction.
The organ meat was freeze dried beef liver in a capsule. I suspect I got something like vitamin a toxicity. Why should onions not be combined with beef. People have been doing that for hundreds and hundreds of years.
Retinol.. probably exactly right with that suspicion.. it's a fat soluable substance as well so regardless of your body fat content it will store in the liver.
Re poisonous combinations, I know some things are hard to comprehend.. as you say, some people and cultures likely have been doin it for centuries.. you are probably correct, I don't know.. all I know is that this combination poisons the intestinal tract and it is a common understanding in many Asian cultures.. even if not consciously know, still practiced in their traditional recipes and diets. Personally I have faith in traditional perceptions, with beef and onions I can easily practice this belief with no detrement.. I can still use an onion poultice or consume onion freely with other foods.. it's simply a mitigation of risk.
If you want yo get super pedantic regarding minimizing toxicity I would advise the traditional method of soaking meat in fresh water to remove the blood.. Blood adds flavor but also adds all the toxins. Flesh good.. blood bad.
Yes, beef blood should be avoided which is why I cook my meat well. Beef blood can cause cjd so that’s not being pedantic, it’s being wise. But there’s no beef blood in beef drippings anyway
Bro, I love you but beef fat is very very hard on the body... for a number of reasons it should be avoided in the diet. Eat beef meat, bones and some organs.. but not the fat please.
(ps. and please avoid eating beef and onions together as this will poison ones digestive system :)
🖐😊 Hi Andrea. There may be a reference in Steven Chang's 'The Tao of a Balanced Diet' but most adverse food combination recommendations come from ayurvedic or TCM practices.. In these practices variables such as heating and cooling properties of foods, taste (each of which stimulate the five viscera) and digestive speed (eg. fruit and nuts 2 hrs vrs carbs and protiens 4+ hrs) are analised. Although there may be no noticeable contraindications, the practices nonetheless focus on longevity and quality of health. Due to the 5 base personality types (and 25 sub categories) the effects of good or bad practices will affect particular people in varying ways due to their inherent organ dominance and/or weakness. (See generative and degenerative organ cycles). For example the beef onion combination may only effect yang personalities (hot blooded), with a particular organ dominance/weakness and thus only have detrimental consequences on a ratio between 1&5 and/or 5&25. So as a cultural practice, the combination is excluded from the diet to promote a greater opportunity for general wellbeing amongst the population as a whole. Hope this helps 😊
If I understand it right: it is neither proven, nor generally true for everyone.
And for me, it doesn't make sense to exclude something from the diet of an entire population only because it MIGHT effect a small percentage of people, depending on a great number of variables that are pretty difficult to determine.
One variable being my genetic setup, from ancestors in Central Europe in the past maybe 1000 years or so, I can't see why would it be good for me to follow some quite random diet recommendation from the other half of the globe, with a totally different climate, foods produced, people with different genetics etc...
It's not that I disregard TCM or other natural practices, and I definitely do not prefer believing in Big Medicine as many do - but this simply doesn't make sense for me.
So, I can't see why do you give this as an advice that we should all follow.
Yes it’s always been a common combination in my diet. When I was 46 I had no wrinkle and looked like a 12 year old lol. It was only after implant surgery that things went awry
I think your information source is quite wrong. In 2022 I was unable to eat the meat after eating organ meat for an entire year. So I just ate the beef fat. If there was anything wrong with it, my mouth and eyes would burn and I would rapidly lose even more weight like what happens if I eat vegetables as vegetables have phytonutrients that are slightly toxic to humans. Because of my severe hypersensitivity, they are more toxic for me.
During the plague it was noticed that onion farmers and their families didn’t get the plague, while all around them every family had someone who got it. The onion farmers and their families had a diet high in onions and had them hanging in bunches all round the house. Onions are known as a very effective way of detoxifying the body and this is why the onion farmers and their families never succumbed. Even nowadays, onions are recommended by specialists in this field to detox. Onions and cabbage.
Love the idea overall. I’m a little concerned with toxins as fat is the storer of toxins so all the vaccines,GMO feed, etc. the cow was exposed to will be in the tallow. Nonetheless I’m giving it a try, thanks!
Also, I have a huge toxicity problem from an adverse event to bone cement which has damaged my blood. I’m only 50kg and for most of my life I have had no subcutaneous layer of fat. By your logic, suggesting that fat is the storer of toxins does not match up with reality. With all the toxins in my body I should be really fat if your assertion was correct
Because I have no subcutaneous layer of fat and I have a source of toxins in me that has made me very sick. Years ago when I had toxic levels of mercury in my body I also had no subcutaneous layer of fat as noted by my dr. I don’t know where you got the idea that fat stores toxins. Our immune system has a natural detoxification mechanism to get rid of toxins. If beef fat was full of toxins I would react to them too, like I react to all the toxins in vegetables
I wonder if you read the article because fat did all these great things to my health like reversing arthritis, a connective tissue disorder and osteoporosis. If fat was full of toxins it would be bad for me, not good for me
I have a severe hypersensitivity to all foods to one extent or another. The only food I can eat which doesn’t cause anaphylaxis is red meat and fat from ruminants. If it was full of toxins I would not be able to eat it. If I eat vegetables i get severe anaphylaxis and rapid weight loss due to all the antigenic metals and pesticides in them.
Around the world, people with autoimmune disease have shifted to a red meat and fat diet only as they found it gets rid of their autoimmune disorders. If beef fat was full of toxins this would not occur. When the body ingests or has toxins implanted in their body, their immune system breaks them down to get rid of them from the body. The human body storing toxins is ridiculous and that is why the human body has a detox system. To rid toxins from the body.
If beef fat was full of toxins it would not have reversed my connective tissue disorder or arthritis. It would have made them worse. The slightly toxic phytonutrients in vegetables is also a contributor to arthritis
The fact alone that TPTB that poison us want us off red meat, and eating low-fat diets, supports this premise, even if your experiences with it weren’t so fantastic.
But I’m elated for you that it is working this well for you.
It was just a temporary inconvenience for a year. I can eat red meat again. The nz govt is pricing meat out of the market and this will lead to a health crisis in adults and developmental problems in children like rickets. I used to be able to buy a whole ribeye for $110-$130 nzd from the meat works butcher. That has now been shut down and the supermarket prices increased by a large amount, making them unaffordable
An obese a person has metabolic function. That’s why they are obese. Their metabolism is malfunctioning. That’s why a lot go on a ruminant meat ad fat diet. To fix their malfunctioning metabolism and be the weight they should be.
Do you not remember the atkins diet. That idea came from medical science according to the author, he didn’t make it up. If very skinny people have a diet if ruminant meat and fat, they put weight on when their metabolism is fixed.
Titanium has been confirmed to be a cause of metabolic dysfunction, and reality shows this to be true. I’ve had hypersensitivity reactions to multiple titanium orthopaedic implants which had to be removed. Removing them stopped the metabolic dysfunction which was making me badly underweight and I immediately started putting weight on. I’ve also spoken with countless others who have become hypersensitive to titanium in an orthopaedic implant or even a surgical clip and they have all developed metabolic dysfunction. Most women who become hypersensitive to titanium become obese although some lose too much weight.
There are lots of people out there with titanium in their mouths or bodies. Most modern dental work has titanium dioxide in it. Anyone who is obese or underweight needs to first remove all foreign objects from the body, remove all root canals, and replace all dental fillings with metal free ceramics. Doing this will have a huge impact on health. Titanium is known to affect the autonomic functions of the body which then causes metabolic dysfunction. Nickel is also a big concern. If a women has endometriosis then there’s a high chance that it was caused by the nickel in their diet which has now been confirmed. If they are also obese then the chances of them having a nickel hypersensitivity is very high and it needs to be dealt with
The chicken pox and measles parties where parents purposely infected their child with a sick child to avoid vaccination are no myth. While drs may have failed to do the same, the public certainly knows how to prove contagion. I wouldn’t listen to any allopathic dr. Most of what drs say is utter BS and they have no training or experience in healthcare. Probably why drs are the third leading cause of death in developed countries. There is no evidence that contagion is a myth. There’s just a lot of failed attempts to prove contagion which means it’s not yet proven by allopathic medicine. It’s a purely academic argument
All around the world, people with autoimmune disorders have been shifting to a meat and fat only diet as it makes all their autoimmune symptoms disappear. Prior to covid, scientists believed the main cause of the huge increase in autoimmune disorders was the titanium dioxide nanoparticles that now surround the planet in the atmosphere. If I don’t avoid vegetables, my autoimmune symptoms come back. I’m saying that, there is a reason for my position. An adverse event to Cortoss bone cement used in back surgery. If I could get it removed, I’d recover and I’d definitely go back to eating vegetables again. A meat and fat diet is known as a diet of last resort. When we become hypersensitised to the environment, we also become hypersensitised to the slightly toxic phytonutrients in plants, and the metals they uptake from the soil. This causes a hyperimmune response and immune suppressants are used to lower the hyperimmune response which is a much more accurate term than autoimmune disorder
All good, well said and yes each to their own.. and I agree it may seem over the top to focus on one aspect which may not be an issue to all people. Personally, I would rather eleminate the potential.. Lungs are sour and stimulated by sour foods.. onions are warming and sour. These facts applies to all people everywhere, it is not a cultural or ethnic variable. It is true also that there are are certian principals which will apply to everyone everywhere such as not consuming fruit and dairy together, animal fats and carbohydrates, combing two high protein ingredients (particular) etc. The body functions in particular ways regardless of circumstance. All good, we live and learn, thanks for the feedback.. on board. Be well 🖐😊
The body functions in many different ways between different people. Some react to some things while others don’t. We are not all the same and generic allopathic medicine has failed because of this. For ignoring people’s differences
Does tallow work?
I don’t see why not as tallow is just fat anyway. One thing though, I found that drinking warm fat made my stomach a bit upset. That’s why I put the fat into molds and ate it cold, melting it in my mouth with a mouthful of hot chocolate or tea before swallowing. Id only take a small nibble at a time.
Would butter not also work?
Good question. The answer is I don’t know, as I haven’t tested it out.
Hmm... very interesting! Eating (good) fat definitely makes me feel good.
We are made of animal fat, so when the fat in our diet isn’t enough to sustain our use of fat, it needs to be replaced in the diet. Fat from ruminants has been found to be the best at healing the metabolism and brain signalling. Many people have reversed their autoimmune symptoms on a diet of only beef and lamb fat.
"take a small nibble of your fat Lego brick, chew it up, then take a sip of a hot drink to mix with it and make it liquid. This way, you don’t notice the beef fat. You can eat one Lego brick in about 4 nibbles without even noticing it. Don’t try melting it and drinking it, as if my experience was anything to go by, it will make you feel sick." - so, just with one sip of a hot drink it doesn't make you feel sick, but melting it in a cup of hot water and drinking it, will? Sounds a bit strange.
Reading your article, I was thinking about using it in a soup - how would that work?
Probably quite a good idea. The bricks I made was because it made it easier to dose and have the same dose daily
Thanks.
I have a look where can I buy it and will tell you later how I liked it.
Yes I agree, a vegetables phytonutrients are also slightly toxic to humans
I have nothing against onions.. what I said is specifically don't combine them in a meal with beef.. you will poison your intestines.. re your eating organ meat fad.. we're you eating the filters? With our highly toxic modern farming protocols the liver and kidney meats will be highly toxic. This is perhaps why you had a reaction.
The organ meat was freeze dried beef liver in a capsule. I suspect I got something like vitamin a toxicity. Why should onions not be combined with beef. People have been doing that for hundreds and hundreds of years.
Retinol.. probably exactly right with that suspicion.. it's a fat soluable substance as well so regardless of your body fat content it will store in the liver.
Re poisonous combinations, I know some things are hard to comprehend.. as you say, some people and cultures likely have been doin it for centuries.. you are probably correct, I don't know.. all I know is that this combination poisons the intestinal tract and it is a common understanding in many Asian cultures.. even if not consciously know, still practiced in their traditional recipes and diets. Personally I have faith in traditional perceptions, with beef and onions I can easily practice this belief with no detrement.. I can still use an onion poultice or consume onion freely with other foods.. it's simply a mitigation of risk.
If you want yo get super pedantic regarding minimizing toxicity I would advise the traditional method of soaking meat in fresh water to remove the blood.. Blood adds flavor but also adds all the toxins. Flesh good.. blood bad.
Yes, beef blood should be avoided which is why I cook my meat well. Beef blood can cause cjd so that’s not being pedantic, it’s being wise. But there’s no beef blood in beef drippings anyway
Bro, I love you but beef fat is very very hard on the body... for a number of reasons it should be avoided in the diet. Eat beef meat, bones and some organs.. but not the fat please.
(ps. and please avoid eating beef and onions together as this will poison ones digestive system :)
Do you have some reference for beef and onions together being poisonous?
Asking from Hungary where we have been eating this combo since the beginning of times...
I have not found any source info about this.
Thanks
🖐😊 Hi Andrea. There may be a reference in Steven Chang's 'The Tao of a Balanced Diet' but most adverse food combination recommendations come from ayurvedic or TCM practices.. In these practices variables such as heating and cooling properties of foods, taste (each of which stimulate the five viscera) and digestive speed (eg. fruit and nuts 2 hrs vrs carbs and protiens 4+ hrs) are analised. Although there may be no noticeable contraindications, the practices nonetheless focus on longevity and quality of health. Due to the 5 base personality types (and 25 sub categories) the effects of good or bad practices will affect particular people in varying ways due to their inherent organ dominance and/or weakness. (See generative and degenerative organ cycles). For example the beef onion combination may only effect yang personalities (hot blooded), with a particular organ dominance/weakness and thus only have detrimental consequences on a ratio between 1&5 and/or 5&25. So as a cultural practice, the combination is excluded from the diet to promote a greater opportunity for general wellbeing amongst the population as a whole. Hope this helps 😊
Thanks James for the detailed explanation.
If I understand it right: it is neither proven, nor generally true for everyone.
And for me, it doesn't make sense to exclude something from the diet of an entire population only because it MIGHT effect a small percentage of people, depending on a great number of variables that are pretty difficult to determine.
One variable being my genetic setup, from ancestors in Central Europe in the past maybe 1000 years or so, I can't see why would it be good for me to follow some quite random diet recommendation from the other half of the globe, with a totally different climate, foods produced, people with different genetics etc...
It's not that I disregard TCM or other natural practices, and I definitely do not prefer believing in Big Medicine as many do - but this simply doesn't make sense for me.
So, I can't see why do you give this as an advice that we should all follow.
I’d like to see that reference too
Yes it’s always been a common combination in my diet. When I was 46 I had no wrinkle and looked like a 12 year old lol. It was only after implant surgery that things went awry
I think your information source is quite wrong. In 2022 I was unable to eat the meat after eating organ meat for an entire year. So I just ate the beef fat. If there was anything wrong with it, my mouth and eyes would burn and I would rapidly lose even more weight like what happens if I eat vegetables as vegetables have phytonutrients that are slightly toxic to humans. Because of my severe hypersensitivity, they are more toxic for me.
During the plague it was noticed that onion farmers and their families didn’t get the plague, while all around them every family had someone who got it. The onion farmers and their families had a diet high in onions and had them hanging in bunches all round the house. Onions are known as a very effective way of detoxifying the body and this is why the onion farmers and their families never succumbed. Even nowadays, onions are recommended by specialists in this field to detox. Onions and cabbage.
Love the idea overall. I’m a little concerned with toxins as fat is the storer of toxins so all the vaccines,GMO feed, etc. the cow was exposed to will be in the tallow. Nonetheless I’m giving it a try, thanks!
Also, I have a huge toxicity problem from an adverse event to bone cement which has damaged my blood. I’m only 50kg and for most of my life I have had no subcutaneous layer of fat. By your logic, suggesting that fat is the storer of toxins does not match up with reality. With all the toxins in my body I should be really fat if your assertion was correct
Because I have no subcutaneous layer of fat and I have a source of toxins in me that has made me very sick. Years ago when I had toxic levels of mercury in my body I also had no subcutaneous layer of fat as noted by my dr. I don’t know where you got the idea that fat stores toxins. Our immune system has a natural detoxification mechanism to get rid of toxins. If beef fat was full of toxins I would react to them too, like I react to all the toxins in vegetables
I wonder if you read the article because fat did all these great things to my health like reversing arthritis, a connective tissue disorder and osteoporosis. If fat was full of toxins it would be bad for me, not good for me
I have a severe hypersensitivity to all foods to one extent or another. The only food I can eat which doesn’t cause anaphylaxis is red meat and fat from ruminants. If it was full of toxins I would not be able to eat it. If I eat vegetables i get severe anaphylaxis and rapid weight loss due to all the antigenic metals and pesticides in them.
Around the world, people with autoimmune disease have shifted to a red meat and fat diet only as they found it gets rid of their autoimmune disorders. If beef fat was full of toxins this would not occur. When the body ingests or has toxins implanted in their body, their immune system breaks them down to get rid of them from the body. The human body storing toxins is ridiculous and that is why the human body has a detox system. To rid toxins from the body.
If beef fat was full of toxins it would not have reversed my connective tissue disorder or arthritis. It would have made them worse. The slightly toxic phytonutrients in vegetables is also a contributor to arthritis
So an obese person is not storing toxic seed oils, among other things?
The fact alone that TPTB that poison us want us off red meat, and eating low-fat diets, supports this premise, even if your experiences with it weren’t so fantastic.
But I’m elated for you that it is working this well for you.
What is TPTB?
The powers that be
Thanks!
It was just a temporary inconvenience for a year. I can eat red meat again. The nz govt is pricing meat out of the market and this will lead to a health crisis in adults and developmental problems in children like rickets. I used to be able to buy a whole ribeye for $110-$130 nzd from the meat works butcher. That has now been shut down and the supermarket prices increased by a large amount, making them unaffordable
An obese a person has metabolic function. That’s why they are obese. Their metabolism is malfunctioning. That’s why a lot go on a ruminant meat ad fat diet. To fix their malfunctioning metabolism and be the weight they should be.
Do you not remember the atkins diet. That idea came from medical science according to the author, he didn’t make it up. If very skinny people have a diet if ruminant meat and fat, they put weight on when their metabolism is fixed.
I meant metabolic dysfunction in the first sentence. Typo
Titanium has been confirmed to be a cause of metabolic dysfunction, and reality shows this to be true. I’ve had hypersensitivity reactions to multiple titanium orthopaedic implants which had to be removed. Removing them stopped the metabolic dysfunction which was making me badly underweight and I immediately started putting weight on. I’ve also spoken with countless others who have become hypersensitive to titanium in an orthopaedic implant or even a surgical clip and they have all developed metabolic dysfunction. Most women who become hypersensitive to titanium become obese although some lose too much weight.
There are lots of people out there with titanium in their mouths or bodies. Most modern dental work has titanium dioxide in it. Anyone who is obese or underweight needs to first remove all foreign objects from the body, remove all root canals, and replace all dental fillings with metal free ceramics. Doing this will have a huge impact on health. Titanium is known to affect the autonomic functions of the body which then causes metabolic dysfunction. Nickel is also a big concern. If a women has endometriosis then there’s a high chance that it was caused by the nickel in their diet which has now been confirmed. If they are also obese then the chances of them having a nickel hypersensitivity is very high and it needs to be dealt with
Hm. I should visit the nearby kebab place more often.
The chicken pox and measles parties where parents purposely infected their child with a sick child to avoid vaccination are no myth. While drs may have failed to do the same, the public certainly knows how to prove contagion. I wouldn’t listen to any allopathic dr. Most of what drs say is utter BS and they have no training or experience in healthcare. Probably why drs are the third leading cause of death in developed countries. There is no evidence that contagion is a myth. There’s just a lot of failed attempts to prove contagion which means it’s not yet proven by allopathic medicine. It’s a purely academic argument
All around the world, people with autoimmune disorders have been shifting to a meat and fat only diet as it makes all their autoimmune symptoms disappear. Prior to covid, scientists believed the main cause of the huge increase in autoimmune disorders was the titanium dioxide nanoparticles that now surround the planet in the atmosphere. If I don’t avoid vegetables, my autoimmune symptoms come back. I’m saying that, there is a reason for my position. An adverse event to Cortoss bone cement used in back surgery. If I could get it removed, I’d recover and I’d definitely go back to eating vegetables again. A meat and fat diet is known as a diet of last resort. When we become hypersensitised to the environment, we also become hypersensitised to the slightly toxic phytonutrients in plants, and the metals they uptake from the soil. This causes a hyperimmune response and immune suppressants are used to lower the hyperimmune response which is a much more accurate term than autoimmune disorder
wondering about biotoxin illness- lyme & mold/mycotoxins/ cirs.